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SurferJane

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Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 16, 2008 8:24 AM

And this is in all seriousness. I hope that this honest analysis will also help Doppleganger further better the game as well as this post will help bring in some new users via search engines .

You don't have to read all of this if you don't want, I just wanted to voice my opinion.

I've always found myself searching for virtual worlds to be apart of. The first virtual world I've ever been on wayyyy back when was The Palace.

It may look like a big window of crap right now, but back then that was the most awesome place to chat! Age group of 12-19 maybe, with avatars and clothes that you could draw and create yourself with your paint program and import into the game for you to wear, and for anyone to pick up if you choose to drop it.

What made the palace so fun was the ease of customization and complete control of the user to make the community their own.When you talk, a chat bubble comes from your head, along with a separate chat box as well showing all of what was said in the entire chat room.

Another thing that made this Chat interesting was The Palace - Server. You could create your own chat server with your own chat rooms, backgrounds, and even have some rooms locked. As long as you kept your server program running, anyone could come to your virtual world. Some people ran hotels where you could have your own actual room that was password protected, with furniture images you could import, and stuff like that. And this was such a simple thing that even me at the time, a 12 year old, could set one up. You could even your own music to play when you enter in certain rooms.

So what makes this chat client good?
Community control to make their own worlds
Community control to create their own looks and clothes
Community even created their own events like model competitions, family's w/ doll house backgrounds, salons, clubs, resturaunts, etc...

on the Palace server, any image could be used as your background settings
Attractive avatars. I could find a good example of the chat screenshot, but those avatar dolls are mostly what everyone used.
Everything was free because it was all user created. Everyone shared avatars and clothes if they wanted.

What made it sucky?
Well at the time, nothing. Technology was so behind back then, I was actually playing that on dial-up. But it most certainly wasn't in 3D, and at the time I didn't' expect any chat program to be that advanced so The Palace chat was a very addicting place to be and was actually pretty safe.

And this is the direction I hope that vSide is going towards

Now that virtual chats have evolved into the 3D worlds and have gotten more "real", of course not all of these attributes that The Palace had can be added, because these people need to make money. But have some of these Virtual World creators forgotten that it is the community that REALLY creates the world, and not so much the creators?

Before I got into an actual 3D world, I played on a 3D pixelized world called Habbo Hotel. You've all probably heard of it. That's when I was introduced to the whole fake currency thing. I thought it absurd to have to pay for graphic images to only be represented in a virtual world.

But what made this such an big leap from The Palace was the interactivity between User and Program.
You could go to a restaurant's in Habbo Hotel, tell the person at the counter you want a burger, and a burger would appear in your hand a few moments later! Now THAT was neat. Unlike The Palace where by you'd probably just draw a burger and tell your avatar to wear it.

On Habbo hotel is also where I was introduced to the whole "Apartment" thing. You could choose your apartment layout, walls, floors, but wait a minute... i have no furniture! Of course they start you off with a few points to get some, but there is no way you can gain your own points with out buying some T.T

Well that sux. No way to express creativity with out a CC. My parents would have never given me money to put towards a game. So I got bored with that quickly.

Pros of Habbo Hotel:
Resturaunt things were cool how you can order food
Pool area/diving board where you can perforom tricks and receive ratings
Can have your own place
Community hosted events like falling furni

Cons of Habbo Hotel:
Avatar limitation... looked like legos
No real way to earn points
Graphics were okay, but nothing to special... definitely a step down from the Palace because the creators controlled the look.

So after habbo hotel, of course imitations followed, like coke music.

Now THAT was fun because you could actually earn points by buying their virtual soda and looking under the virtual cap...

Okay so fast forward away from that stuff and onto the REAL 3D stuff. I've tried just about... hmm ALL of them.

Mooove Online

UH... need I say more? This sucked big time. But at least you started off with your own virtual partment with fabric, ceilings, and floors you could import yourself. That meaning any image you can find you could put on your walls, you could even hang pictures of yourself in these rooms too.

So what turned me off about this chat? Well, the age group were well in their 30's and 40's for one, graphics were crap, movements/animations were crap, it's like Second Life on steroids.

Active Worlds

A bigger pile of crap with ishtier graphics. I couldn't understand how to use it, the age group was probably wayy older than I was. And it just didn't please me at all. I'm pretty sure both this and Moove Online had a currency thing too, but I never went too deep into the game to find out.

Fast Forward to the pretty looking stuff.

IMVU

Okay, now when I crash landed on IMVU I really liked what I saw. The graphics were cartoony, yet 3D, fairly attractive and could be user created. The currency system works as follows:

You can either buy IMVU credits, or earn them by selling clothes, furniture, animations, etc at your store, winning the jackpot, or by doing basic chat.

What I loved about IMVU was that no two people would ever look alike because there are just SOOO much stuff you can buy to customize yourself. Literally thousands upon thousands to buy.

But uh... wait a minute.. why am I glued to this effin chair. Yea... IMVU is strictly instant messenger and not a walk around chat. Well that sucks doesn't it. You can only move as far as your furniture goes, and can only do special actions where there are special spots or furniture enabling you to do so. Well that sux.

Pros:
Community created avatars, clothes, furnitures, scenes
Community created events
Community created actions
No-two avatars look alike (unless you really want them too)
Good currency system, you can buy and sell credits as you wish and make a profit
Animated Interaction with other avatars

Cons:
Not a walk around chat
Limited to scenes, furnitures, actions based upon what you can afford
Not really virtual worlds, just virtual settings.

Before I hit IMVU, i actually touched on There.com

Now I have to admit, when I first downloaded There.com I thought my search was over. This chat world had everything.

Pros:
MANY Games to play with your vFriends
Hoverboards, buggies, Hoverboats, paint ball guns, card games....
Dancing introduced
You can have a pet
You can easily interact with other avatars in a sychronized manner. (hugs, kissing, hi 5's)
The radio plays in certain places
Voice chat (the avatars mouth moves and synchs to what is being said)

Cons:
Currency system is bleh....no real way to earn points unless by attending events and if someone chooses to award you points having done so.
Graphics are okay... but a bit blocky
Your avatar gets ugly noobish clothes unless you have money to buy new ones
You can't use Voice chat unless you buy premium membership for 10 dollars.
You can't afford a home unless your rich

I'm not going to touch on VMTV because they use the same software as There.com

Second Life

We've ALL heard of THIS game.

I mean cmon, you can have sex, have a pet, own a house, furnish it, run your own stores, quit your real day job, and earn money on your fake one, drive cars, get married, fly, and did I mention theres sex? So why does it suck?

Well a game like this appeals only to certain age group. You know... 30-60 something year olds who are actually REALLY sick of their first lives. Bad marriages, stressful jobs. A place where they can get away and be who ever they wanna be. But not everyone has the money these adults do to have a "second life" and that's what makes it difficult.

Pros:
All of those listed above
Community created avatars I think....
Community created... Community, buildings, stores, clubs, restaurants, you name it
I THINK you can earn money by working for someone at a store or something and can convert Linden Dollars to real dollars

To be quite honest, it's one of the main reasons Second Life gets so much attention is because like The Palace, the Community creates the world.

Cons:
Age group, not suited for those of a much younger age
Graphics are absolute bullocks as well as actions
I THINK you can earn money by working for someone

I'm going to pause for a second and make not of something about the evolution of virtual worlds from this point on. I always knew that the next step to virtual worlds was the streaming aspect WAY before Kaneva popped out. Being able to play videos from a 3D TV, and music from a 3D stereo, and hang real pictures from a 3D frame. That is what makes Kaneva intersting, but it doesn't neccesarily make Kaneva good.

Kaneva

Pros:
Community controlled media
Customizable apartments, uploadable pictures into apartments as well as uploadable carpets, walls, textures.

Cons:
Graphics are horrid
Places are empty
Not much to do
Not many actions
I THINK the only way to get money is to buy it

Okay So I'm not going to be bias kiss-ass in this post and say that vSide is the best virtual world, because that wouldn't necessarily be true. But vSide is still a work in progress that has GREAT potential to be. There are many things that vSide still lacks, yet there are many things that vSide has that gives them advantage over other virtual worlds.

Pros:
Avatars are attractive, and yes that matters. Figures are realistic as well as the actions and dances they perform
Community created/hosted events
Currency system, you're able to gain points by being active in the world and doing trivia
Music environment wherever you go
Customizable affordable apartments with streaming media
Shopping experience is in the virtual world rather than in a browser

Cons:
Horrible lag in congregated areas
Everyone looks similar
Creator controlled world
Not much to do besides party and host parties
No avatar-to-avatar animated interaction

So why am I saying all of this if vSide isn't the best?

Because I know that vSide is still in beta giving them the opportunity to be the best based on what WE say.

I know that I, as a Virtual World user, the things that make virtual worlds become so popular is....

I think that vSide has one of the best, but I don't mean so in game. Because vSide is still fairly small, a good percent of you all know each other or have met at least once. Which makes vSide kind of feel like a high school and not so much a big world because it's really not.

The creators control the environment, the avatars, and the actions. And of course the reason being is that vSide appeals to a certain age group unlike Second Life, so it has to be more controlled.

So what can vSide add to improve community while still retaining control? I know some of these are being worked on or have been suggested, but I wanted to point out some of the important ones.

Community Side
Giving users ability of avatar creation (clothes, hair, make up, accesories, etc....) - This will also give users a way to earn vPoints as well as make a name for themselves w/in the community.(by selling some of the hottest clothing)
User2User games - Giving us something to do besides party. Card games, arcade games, Boat Races,
User2User interaction - I've suggested this before at office hours, like the kissing couch, but w/ out having there to be a couch there... Hugs, Kisses, Hi 5's, Cuddle, Piggy Back rides, Holding Hands, Slow dancing,

Voice Chat - Like there.com and VMTV. Mouth moving to the sound of your voice would be pretty cool.
Apartment Security - Password locked housing, shared access. (giving someone else the ability to move your stuff around)
Pictures, Music in Apts - I think this is being worked on, but it would be cool if we could play our own music from our vStereo.

User Interface
I actually really like the user interface right now. It's easy to understand and navigate.

vSide Developer Tool
Now... I know that IMVU and There has this... But a program like this would only be for the sole purpose of creating clothes and stuff for the avatars. As well as possibly being able to make our own hair styles, make up for our faces, etc... Imagine if this is implemented, that Salon idea someone suggested would really shine!

So this is just my... ELABORATE analysis of virtual worlds as a whole and vSide. You don't have to read this all if you don't want to, but if you happen to read it, let me know what you think.

Dance_master

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Registered: 12/15/06

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 16, 2008 9:44 AM

in response to: SurferJane

Whoa..
Im very pleased.
You did a fantastic job on this

I like how you can a Pro and Con for at least every single one.
Made me wanna go try it out.. But my place is here, On vSide

IMVU - Never let me walk, talk to ACTUAL people, or go anywhere else but my pad..
VERY confusing

And you forgot Zwinkies

seyna

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Registered: 04/23/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 16, 2008 11:12 AM

in response to: SurferJane

Wow really good analysis here, I think it will help Doppleganger and also the vSiders

Your analysis was very interesting and as you said there are still things to change to make
vSide a better place. I agree with you about the lag part, it can annoy people when they try to
walk around and try to talk with friends.

seyna

Shopaholic_Luvs...

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Registered: 11/06/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 16, 2008 1:14 PM

in response to: seyna

seyna wrote:
I agree with you about the lag part, it can annoy people when they try to
walk around and try to talk with friends.

I agree. vSide has to improve lag part. It really makes me mad, when I try to walk and I hit the wall.

Nice job Jane. I think you set a good example of each virtual games with their pulses and minuses. One thing you can add on vSide Pros is the forums.

But, I still think vSide is the best virtual game.

XoxJAMxxBAMxoX

Posts: 138
Registered: 06/13/08

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 16, 2008 11:24 AM

in response to: SurferJane

On there.com when you start you get a house....

and yes second life is a little old, but thats why they have Second lIfe teen

Kyraaa

Posts: 5,697
Registered: 08/08/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 16, 2008 11:49 AM

in response to: SurferJane

I agree with 99% of what you said here, but...
I really hope they don't add Voice chat. I mean, I can understand doing radio shows, but the voice chat would just cause lag. You'd walk into a room, and then bam, someone's screaming at you. It's not a good idea, and besides, thats what Skype was created for.

I think vSide is way better than other games, because the staff actually listen to what the users have to say, they also interact with us as if they were just other players. It makes you feel welcomed. Also, the players of this game actually WANT to help you, besides blowing you off.

Besides all the crazy drama, we are mainly a community, as you said, this game is more of a high school. You pretty much know everyone, which is another reason why I like the game so much. In other games I've played I never really tend to hang out with the people I meet, they forget, and I forget. I usually would hang out with people I know IRL.

But if staff are correct, then the game will grow, get bigger, more users, better cities. :]

I commend you for making such a magnificent post. It must've taken quite a long time to put your thoughts on each game in this thread.

Gloober

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Registered: 07/09/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 16, 2008 12:38 PM

in response to: Kyraaa

By voice chat she means the avatars mouths moving as you type. That used to be a feature implemented into vSide but it got lost in one of the last major beta releases. I'm sure it will be back soon.
____________________

I really dug everything you said. If I were staff and I had the chance, I would read your entire post and really sit on it. By sit on it, I mean I would think about it and try to take your ideas and analysis into consideration as much as possible. And from there, better this virtual world.

I've been visiting Second Life here and there for the past few days and to my surprise, it wasn't so bad. A few things that bugged me and I'm sure bug everyone who is just a newbie there is that it's really difficult to understand at first. It's not as easy as vSide at all. However, the abundance of items, skins, clothes, hair, jewelry, tattoos, piercings, Obama signs to hold, and other things you can decorate your avatar with to make it look almost exact to real life (or just be unique and crazy looking, what ever floats your boat) really made me change my mind. There are AO's (I think it stands for action override) that can fix the way you walk and stand, and do basically any other emote. Because yes, by default, your avatar walks like it has a led pipe shoved up its poop chute. The community isn't as close knit and definitely the graphics aren't as refined and crisp as vSide. Though, the avatars look a little more realistic because you can adjust the settings ever so slightly to give it that real touch; weight, shape of face, shape of body, the size of your limbs- EVERYTHING. vSide's excuse for this is usually that its really hard to do, close to impossible as John has said in Office Hours a while back. Why exactly can Second Life do it and you can't? Different engines, different.. what? This isn't exactly my forte, so I'm super curious.

Kudos to this thread, I really like it.

Kyraaa

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Registered: 08/08/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 16, 2008 3:32 PM

in response to: Gloober

Voice Chat - Like there.com and VMTV. Mouth moving to the sound of your voice would be pretty cool.

Gloober

Posts: 3,356
Registered: 07/09/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 16, 2008 8:03 PM

in response to: Kyraaa

Oh, gross.

Lorel3609

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Registered: 05/20/08

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 24, 2008 9:04 PM

in response to: Kyraaa

It would be pretty cool to be able to talk to people on vSide threw a mic

Winry

Posts: 1,237
Registered: 10/07/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 16, 2008 2:06 PM

in response to: SurferJane

Really really awsome analysis. I didn't know that there were 3d worlds as far back as you said there were XD. So it's quite awsome to know. I wouldn't like to see a voice chat option in here because I like typing more. I also think that creator generated content is better, because as Gloob said it's "nice and crisp".

brunette_barbie

Posts: 365
Registered: 06/11/08

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 16, 2008 2:45 PM

in response to: SurferJane

good job

michiko

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Registered: 03/30/08

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 16, 2008 8:42 PM

in response to: SurferJane

Thank you for taking the time to write this. I have never used any of the virtual worlds mentioned above other than vSide, so I really enjoyed reading your post. The images you included here made me see what each vWorld is like. But it's your description and analysis about each vWorld that allowed me to further see into each one. It's very informative and interesting.

I look forward to the improvement of vSide in the near future.

ivoj

Posts: 6,036
Registered: 06/26/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 17, 2008 12:18 AM

in response to: SurferJane

Ive never actually played other virtual worlds before.
vSide was my first virtual world.. though i played IMVU during my stay on vSide.
IMVU didnt last long because i got bored easily.. its wasnt like vSide.

I loved how you made this post like a summary of growing virtual worlds.
And it seems to me a lot of it was interesting till i read the cons of it.
Technology has been growing and i cant wait to see more stuff to see on vSide!
vSide, it has its cons but i dunno why im stuck with it..
Ive been here for like a year and a few months & never grew tired of it.

Viva la vSide <3

SurferJane

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Registered: 05/30/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 17, 2008 5:54 AM

in response to: SurferJane

Thanks to everyone who has read this so far!

I didn't even think anyone would read it all but glad you all did!

SCHERZINGER444

Posts: 1,967
Registered: 11/11/06

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 17, 2008 10:48 AM

in response to: SurferJane

Now this is very impressive.
This has to be the first really long post that I actually found interesting!
Great job Jane!!!

I think this information will be very helpful to improving vSide!

XoxJAMxxBAMxoX

Posts: 138
Registered: 06/13/08

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 17, 2008 8:39 AM

in response to: SurferJane

oh and one of the best things about vSide is when celebritys drop by.
like the cast of degrassi it was so great last night....

Sonic_Impulse

Posts: 218
Registered: 03/19/08

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 17, 2008 10:44 AM

in response to: XoxJAMxxBAMxoX

Well thats great but there is no way for us to interact with the "celebs" at all. there kept away from us. which in a point is understandable bc everyone will add but.....still.

Good work jane ive played There thanks to you and i liked it but unless you got cash makin points is far to diffucult there are no way to "earn" points your just given them by events that you have to be asked to attend.

i also played habbo hotel and the graphics bothred me as well as the money issue. i really dont agree in puttin real money into a virtual peice of data and code. unless its PS3 XD

anyway thanks for all the information and i agree comepltely with you. exept for the Voice chat i like the chat the way it is now,

Bullet x Valent...

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Registered: 06/04/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 17, 2008 3:05 PM

in response to: SurferJane

Wow, that was a really well written analysis, Jane! I actually took the time to read the whole thing and I have to say I enjoyed reading it.

Being a big online gamer myself, I've also played just about all those games you've mentioned with the addition of others that weren't mentioned (Runescape, Gaia, Playdo, ToonTown, PiratesOnline,..etc) and I agree with you on every detail you said about each. I mean of course you'll run into those games with horrible graphics, not much to do, confusing guidelines and all that, but I have to say vSide is indeed the best I've played so far. Been playing vSide for a year and I can't get enough it's great (minus the laggyness at times and drama).

I also agree on the last portion you wrote concerning community. vSide as I said is a great game and I love playing it, it does need a few improvements community wise though, which will happen in the future of course. Holding hands, kissing couches, kissing more without the couches, slow dancing, cuddeling, piggy back rides, putting your arm around someone..the basic wanted and suggested interactions that will eventually evolve with time to make vSide even better and fun. Not just interactions, but also as you said about appearance..everyone does look the same sometimes and that will change eventually too, being able to customize yourself/clothing which will be cool.

So with that said again, very well said, Jane. It must of took a lot of time to write that, but it was very well thought out and said.

SurferJane

Posts: 359
Registered: 05/30/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 17, 2008 5:54 PM

in response to: Bullet x Valent...

Yes! Me too! I'm a hugeee MMORPG junkie as well as virtual worlds. I've done the runescape, gaia online, club penguin, ToonTown, Silk Road, Pirates Online, Cabal,.... I actually REALLY liked ToonTown even though it was for kids much younger than me lol. I just didn't like how you have to pay

But REALLY fun game that was.

Bullet x Valent...

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Registered: 06/04/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 17, 2008 6:08 PM

in response to: SurferJane

ToonTown was pretty cool, kinda/sorta reminded me of Kingdom Hearts in some twisted way.

Having to pay for it I agree wasn't that great either..I felt bad for the younger kids who wanted unlimited access and they couldn't get it for free.

As for gaming itself, with you 100% on that

EddieValiant

Posts: 218
Registered: 08/24/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 11:57 AM

in response to: Bullet x Valent...

Yeah I tried it out for a while too. Disney sure has botched their online presence. Toon Town was fun, but hasn't really evolved at all. Virtual Magic Kingdom was kinda neat...but Disney scuttled it claiming it was only ever meant to be a limited time event. (Which probably hurt a large percentage of their user base.) Pirates of the Caribbean online is "free" but once you get into the game you find out you have to pay to start going on any missions--so much more crippled than some full-fledged free2play MMOs I've seen. Someone at Disney should start making some good decisions soon.

This is News from the Side!

Bullet x Valent...

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Registered: 06/04/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 12:38 PM

in response to: EddieValiant

Oh yeah I mean..you'd think that Disney would atleast be the smart ones here, when in the end, in some reverse Psychology type way, they trick you. Look at the Pirates commercial they advertise

''Play PiratesOnline for FREE and join Jack Sparrow with other players to fight against evil...''

Key word is FREE right? Imagine little 14 year olds who love Pirates and they see that on TV, their automatically drawn in to thinking its free until they see the luring starting to kick in when the game asks you to pay for missions and other access. Instant fun sucking right there so you're forced to quit because it's pointless. (Not to mention it has secret Adware hiding inside the files. Found that out after I uninstalled it.) So they basically rip you off and still find the time to give you some Adware.

Smooth, Disney, real smooth...

Dance_master

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Registered: 12/15/06

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 26, 2008 9:04 AM

in response to: Bullet x Valent...

Omg. Kingdom Hearts is the shiz.
I miss toontown.. I HATE how you have to pay for it.. But it was a really great game

Really Friendly.
Pirates-Online.com - Never tried it, now.. thanks to you.. I never will ^_

KINGDOM HEARTS PAWNS!!

EddieValiant

Posts: 218
Registered: 08/24/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 17, 2008 6:58 PM

in response to: SurferJane

Did someone say There.com? Click for my secret spy report. >:) Honestly, There.com seemed to have a lot of promise. I liked the promo shots showing off people having fun, puttering around in vehicles, and hanging out in various locales. Too bad the game is actually about hanging out in wastelands, getting yelled at by bitter old players who should probably be supervising their real children, vehicles you can't drive, and "help books" that look like gas cans.

It's like someone took a wad or promise and flushed it.

Also: Did someone say SecondLife?

This is News from the Side!

Edited by: EddieValiant on Jun 17, 2008 6:59 PM

SurferJane

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Registered: 05/30/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 7:34 AM

in response to: EddieValiant

haha I remember that episode of the Office. Funny stuff.

That seems to be another thing people love about vSide is that people here are helpful.

KJK07

Posts: 12
Registered: 05/30/08

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 4:07 PM

in response to: SurferJane

omg i totally agree with u on this post
i too have played Kaneva,Second Life, IMVU, There, AND vMTV and im with u on saying that vSide possibly might just be the best virtual world ive ever played.....they still have a little more stuf to work on but the one thing i really like about it is the vSide Collections(Secrets, Venues, etc.) i have never played a 3D world where it had stuff like that ..so thats really cool.

Aleiati

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Registered: 12/15/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 19, 2008 8:22 PM

in response to: SurferJane

Nice post. =) must have put alot of effort.

Honestly Ive only played a couple of them. Tried Second life, and thought it was like wtf whatt???? Kaneva was just horrible, and Habbo Hotel was just plain sad.

I mean, I saw people having text-sex on habbo. Kinda creepy. And people trying to sleep with you (like on the bed, not the other thing) and try to hook up.

Kaneva? .... way too overdone and attention to detail that it became TOO detailed, and unrealistic respectively. Almost TOO much of an imporsonation.

Secondlife, well like you said, is your... second life. Didnt like it. hey, if you don't like your first life, dont make your second infront of your computer. Fix your life now!!

The end.

Mrs. Wentz

Posts: 1,657
Registered: 07/25/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 24, 2008 1:13 AM

in response to: SurferJane

This was really interesting, after what I've read, I still prefer vSide though <3

Ashley-Sweet-Ro...

Posts: 8
Registered: 06/24/08

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 24, 2008 5:52 PM

in response to: SurferJane

Wow Cool but i dont wanna other 3d Virtual World Sorry

i loves Vside i only online to Vside, Vside is BESTIE THAN OTHER 3D Virtual world

Ciinderella

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Registered: 08/25/06

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 26, 2008 6:02 AM

in response to: SurferJane

I think vSide is the best 3D virtual world so far.
Like EddieValiant said, There.com seemed to have a lot of promise, but it did disappoint me.
The view is horrible, it goes all the way except for the way I want to. The music streams do not work well either. Also, the currency system is crap. You can "try/borrow" clothing for either 4 hours or 10 minutes. Then you go back into your newbie outfit.
As far as I know, vSide has the best currency system.
Good thing is, vSide is still improving. I dont think the other virtual world really will.

When I was on There.com the other day, I found out it was full of desperate internet daters. You sit down and they go sit next to you and immediately start kissing you. I've talked to a few users of There, that seemed a bit normal. I told them it's really annoying to have these noobs bugging you, and said: "At another virtual world I play, they dont have so much of these people, mainly because we dont get to kiss like that." The woman said: "Oh, dont tell me it's vSide." I told her; "Why yes, it's vSide. What's so wrong about vSide?" She said: "vSide has crappy graphics, it's too cartoony."
Well, I like vSide's avatars much better than the ones from There, at least we get to wear some nice clothes.
I told her we have a better currency system, she asked me, "How much vBux can you buy for 5 dollars?" I told her it was 500. Obviously she didn't realize we: 1. Have vPoints, which are FREE, and 2: you can buy more with 100 vBux than with 100 Therebucks.
After being on There.com, I'm so happy with vSide. haha.

Mrs. Wentz

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Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 27, 2008 4:30 AM

in response to: Ciinderella

Ciinderella wrote:
When I was on There.com the other day, I found out it was full of desperate internet daters. You sit down and they go sit next to you and immediately start kissing you.

This really made me lol

Shanic90

Posts: 783
Registered: 12/30/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jun 30, 2008 3:07 PM

in response to: SurferJane

There's big competition for vSide coming soon.

Ps3-home.

Aha well in my book at least.

Ps3-home <3

Youtube it.

SurferJane

Posts: 359
Registered: 05/30/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jul 1, 2008 7:12 AM

in response to: Shanic90

Oh yea i've seen that since last year. I didn't really think I should mention it though because its WAYYY out of the league of all that I've talked about. An EXTREMELY awesome 3D Virtual world, That game room is absolutely AMAZING as well as the avatar customization. You could literally make the person look like you. I also love the physics they've added in the game. But it's only for those with a PS3 sadly, so I can't even play try it out

Also, since we're on the topic, I found out a few months back that GOOGLE is coming out with a 3D Virtual world set to launch later this year. It is now being tested by the students of Arizona State University. Lucky bastards. But If I know Google, they're probably planning on integrating the world with their many other features. Rumors of integrating a Virtual 3D world with Google Earth seems to be surfacing as a Second Real Life. That would be rather ironic to walk down the virtual streets of your real neighborhood to virtually meet a real friend at his real virtual home! I have yet to see a screen shot though of this world and am anticipating what Google has to offer. If anyone could gather the resources to provide the entire world with an actual Second Life, it would be Google, the #1 search engine that has all the answers to life itself, lol.

The following is an excerpt from an article about Googles "My World"

"How might it work? Well, say you want to check out potential sites for a conference you're planning in Chicago. You'd use the street view feature of Google Maps to investigate actual meeting locations, restaurants, night clubs, and hotels. You also would be able to look inside the facilities at various hotels. Once the search for a location is narrowed, meeting planners could do virtual, narrated walk-throughs of facilities with salespeople who could field questions -- all through My World. Google's superb personalization tools also could play a role, helping to tailor the experience to information that members have submitted about themselves. Have a preference for Italian restaurants when traveling? The service could zero in on several fine places for pasta and red wine."

So we'll see XD

ZzAshleyRockzzZ

Posts: 1,722
Registered: 01/03/08

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jul 1, 2008 12:52 PM

in response to: SurferJane

ya i think my first virtual online game was imvu. idk i forgot or when i was like 12 i would go on dressupgames.com looking for simulation games

ZzAshleyRockzzZ

Posts: 1,722
Registered: 01/03/08

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jul 1, 2008 12:52 PM

in response to: ZzAshleyRockzzZ

is the palace really sucky?
omg never herd of it.

ZzAshleyRockzzZ

Posts: 1,722
Registered: 01/03/08

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jul 1, 2008 12:54 PM

in response to: SurferJane

actually my first virtual chat was habbo hotel

sarah-1080

Posts: 154
Registered: 12/30/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jul 1, 2008 2:11 PM

in response to: ZzAshleyRockzzZ

I've tried a few virtual worlds before joining vSide, but I have to say vSide is the first one I've really found myself attached to. The people are great. We have pretty good music streams and graphics. They are the best graphics I've seen so far anyways. Not only that, but for me at least, I rarely experience lag on my computer. I have played vSide on computers that do have more lag, and I will admit that it would be nicer if that could be fixed to some extent. I love vSide, and like it's been mentioned before vSide is still growing, and remains in it's beta stages for now. It's not even going to compare to the other 3-D worlds once it's out of beta.

ZzAshleyRockzzZ

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Registered: 01/03/08

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jul 2, 2008 3:43 PM

in response to: sarah-1080

ya same here every other virtual world i joined i got bored of
but no sorrie for vside.I've been play for year or so now since my old account and never got bored of it.

desart

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Registered: 04/02/08

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? > YES !
Posted: Jul 10, 2008 5:33 AM

in response to: SurferJane

thx jane,
i agree fully : vside rocks all !
future dev from DG will make it even better

vside works great on mac !

btw : released now :

Lively - Welcome
http://www.lively.com/html/landing.html

Requires Windows Vista/XP with Internet Explorer or Firefox

THIS IS ANOTHER FACT, I DONT WANNA USE A PC !!!! LMAO
vside is the only one works on mac !

Armed&Dangerous

Posts: 6
Registered: 07/21/08

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jul 21, 2008 12:55 PM

in response to: SurferJane

This is great. I've played every Virtual World known to man icluding Playdo, Whyville, Gaiaonline, Cokemusic/Mycoke(Which was a totally awesome place! Its gone now.), There, SecondLife, Faketown, The dollpalace, HabboHotel(which I actually grew up on), and VMK I think it stands for Virtual Magic Kingdom its by Disney, and it though I'm way to old for it, it had pretty good graphics.
I think I just wrote this list for myself but anyway kudos to you for this awesome list I read the whole thing.
I made an account just to tell you this, lol.

Fred_From

Posts: 28
Registered: 08/12/08

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Aug 18, 2008 4:28 AM

in response to: Armed&Dangerous

As a MacBook user I can say, that a very important Pro for vSide is, it runs very well on slow computers/graphic-chipsets.

2nd life was unplayable for me, even with an Nvidia 6600GT. And that slow for it's horrible graphics.

vSide runs fast even on an Intel GMA950 and has beautiful graphics.

Edited by: Fred_From on Aug 18, 2008 1:29 PM

crzymusicluvr14

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Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Aug 25, 2008 10:59 AM

in response to: SurferJane

I've always wanted to play Second Life but never got around to it. I would never pick anythig over vSide, even if it was better. Maybe that's just me. Out of curiosity, exactly how long did it take you to do all that? LMAO I dont mean it in a mean way, you did a really good job. But that looks like it took forever XD.

Chiyo_Oshiro

Posts: 15
Registered: 05/15/08

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Sep 21, 2008 10:33 PM

in response to: SurferJane

Wow. Such an in-depth analysis.

I miss Coke Music SO bad! Their old system was much better. I logged on about 1 year ago and they had an entirely new virtual thing going. It made me so sad to see all of the stuff I had earned gone!

Now to which is better...

vSide, I will agree, is geared towards the younger generations in getting them to communicate and share better through COMMUNITY. I think that is what most all chats of such have tried to create.

Secondlife on the other hand, is just what you said. It is geared for the adult generation, although they do have a Secondlife for Teens. In my PERSONAL opinion, I prefer Secondlife over vSide just because there are more opportunities and possibilities as far as making and personalizing your things. Granted, there are a lot of drawbacks to being in Secondlife as well. For one, if you want your own home, you've got to purchase the land with either real money or Lindens (which is the currency in-world) and it all depends on who the landlord is.

Another drawback is that it takes money to make your character look good. The graphics and textures on your character when starting out suck big time, no doubt. But the awesome thing to it all is, no two avatars in-world look alike and the graphics are only as good as the creator of the object with the "bad graphics". Buy a new skin for yourself, get a flexible hair that looks good, and go shopping!

To answer your question, yes. You can work for someone in-world and receive Lindens for your hours, which can then be turned into real money via PayPal. It's such an intricate system they have worked out. And while there are crashes and freeze-ups in vSide, there are double-triple that in SecondLife. When almost everyone in a club has numerous amounts of attachments (i.e. skirts, shoes, headband, hair, bracelet, tail, ears, piercings, etc.), there's bound to be a numerous amount of lag, which COULD cause the SIM to crash.

In short, vSide is, to say the least, easy and convenient as opposed to SecondLife. I've been a part of SecondLife for almost 3 years now, and a part of vSide for about 4-5 months now. As I said, I prefer SecondLife to vSide, but the two are almost incomparable. Almost.

SecondLife is basically a virtual life where most anything can be done (and has been done), and vSide is a place to hang out, make friends, and earn vPoints.

So, any other SL fanatics out there? =P

DropDeadKid

Posts: 1,768
Registered: 12/31/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Sep 21, 2008 10:59 PM

in response to: Chiyo_Oshiro

I play it occasionally, I joined in August. I'm still learning things, and I don't get much of it.
It's very interesting, but it's kind of harder to make friends.

Tahlia

Posts: 227
Registered: 03/28/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Sep 22, 2008 8:41 AM

in response to: SurferJane

vSide is totally the best ..

but i do agree vSide need to step it up a little on cdertain things.. like safety , and more realistic

Myna

Posts: 170
Registered: 02/12/08

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Oct 19, 2008 7:25 PM

in response to: SurferJane

Hmm
i still thinkthat SECOND LIFE is better then vside.
but vside is second place. lol ciuz in SECOND LIFE there are more ways to earn free money :/ anmd u can give em lmao

Voshy

Posts: 110
Registered: 10/15/08

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Oct 19, 2008 8:12 PM

in response to: Myna

This is a really old thread, why would you bump it?

ZzAshleyRockzzZ

Posts: 1,722
Registered: 01/03/08

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Oct 22, 2008 8:30 PM

in response to: SurferJane

Great review on these games!
I think vSide is far better than all those simulation games I've been on, I've been on most games you mentioned, except Mooove Online, and The Palace.
They all mostly have limitations on earning money... XD
I've been on vSide for 2 or 3 years, and it's the only game I've been on that long in my life. I am not just saying it is the best because I'm a vSider, or an Addict, I'm saying it from the bottom of my heart! This game gets me going! =D

DropDeadKid

Posts: 1,768
Registered: 12/31/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Oct 22, 2008 9:07 PM

in response to: ZzAshleyRockzzZ

You know this thread died on September 22nd? I'm really not trying to start with you, but if you're gonna complain about bumping threads, let's not keep dead threads up at the top by posting on them after they died?

xL0VABLEx

Posts: 316
Registered: 04/09/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Oct 23, 2008 4:18 AM

in response to: DropDeadKid

Exactly; This isn't the first time she's done this, either.

xxxoooxxx

Posts: 3,298
Registered: 04/03/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Oct 23, 2008 7:21 AM

in response to: xL0VABLEx

two words

vSide Rules!

desart

Posts: 831
Registered: 04/02/08

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Jul 9, 2009 5:34 PM

in response to: xxxoooxxx

xxxoooxxx wrote:
two words

vSide Rules!

yep !

2008 METAVERSE TOUR - THE SOCIAL VIRTUAL WORLD'S A STAGE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CijdlYOSPc

Blue_devil

Posts: 764
Registered: 04/04/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Oct 23, 2008 12:41 PM

in response to: SurferJane

I think u did a fantastic job reviewing the Virtual Worlds. Though I think you should look at it from a gamers point a view. the 3 top Virtual worlds in my opinion are: There, vSide, and Kaneva. i'm leaving SL out just cuz it's 18+ each of these Virtual Worlds have great features from Voice chat, Browsing the internet inworld, to uploading music, videos, and pics, to just having a blast with friends at parties. i will rank each of these games in my opinion. everyone's opinion will vary from mine and that's ok. This is is only a few Virtual Worlds i'm ranking. and note that these are Virtual Worlds, if you want an opinion on where these Virtual Worlds stand out of ALL the games in the world then i'm sorry to say that these 3 games would rank at the bottom. http://www.mmorpg.com There is on this list and is quite close to the bottom with a rating of 5.67 SL beats There with a rating of 6.58

Ranks:
1st place: There
2nd place: vSide
3rd place: Kaneva

Ranks (including SL)
1st place: Second Life 6.58
2nd place: There 5.67
3rd place: vSide (not on list)
4th place: Kaneva (not on list)

DropDeadKid

Posts: 1,768
Registered: 12/31/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Oct 23, 2008 8:59 PM

in response to: Blue_devil

I thought we got over that stupid MMORPG crap, vSide isn't exactly a RPG..
Nobody likes the idea, and if DG wants vSide on there, they'll do it themself.
Jeeze.

NOW LOCK THIS THREAD. It's so oooooold.

Blue_devil

Posts: 764
Registered: 04/04/07

Re: Is vSide the best 3D virtual world so far...? [long]
Posted: Oct 24, 2008 11:35 AM

in response to: DropDeadKid

if vSide isn't an RPG than why is There and SL on the game list? they're both on most if not all game lists. I think the only reason y they're on those lists is because of their size and all the tasty features they have. I looked at a Virtual World reviewer and i didn't even see vSide on their list.

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Viva la vSide <3

Smooth, Disney, real smooth...

vSide Rules!

vSide Rules!

yep !

2008 METAVERSE TOUR - THE SOCIAL VIRTUAL WORLD'S A STAGE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CijdlYOSPc